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Geschrieben von: Henry Chr. am: 16.10.10, 09:45:52
I would be very pleased, if anyone here in Blankwaffenforum can tell me something about this Sword (Degen).

Looking forward to hearing from you.
Kind regards
Henry

Geschrieben von: limone am: 16.10.10, 11:51:39
Hello Henry,

"Ubi Gloria Omne Periculum Dulce"

Übersetzt:

"Wo Ruhm [ist, ist] alle Gefahr süß."
"Where [the] glory [is,] all danger [tastes] sweet."

Is there any motto or cypher on the other side of the blade?
Or any maker mark?
Gibt es einen Spruch oder ein Zeichen auf der anderen Klingenseite?
Oder ein Hersteller-Zeichen?

Would it be possible to see a foto of the top of the button? (Angelnietkopf von oben)?


Best regards

Carsten

Geschrieben von: Henry Chr. am: 27.10.10, 16:27:58
Hej Carsten,

thank you for your answer, and I apologize for my late replay - I have been on vacation.

The blade is marked on both sides with the same text, and there is no maker marks.

The top button is marked with 3 lions in a shield.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards
Henry

Geschrieben von: limone am: 27.10.10, 20:25:04
Zitat von Henry Chr.:
The top button is marked with 3 lions in a shield.


Three english lions?

http://www.civicheraldry.de/page/6853


Grüße

Carsten

Geschrieben von: Henry Chr. am: 29.10.10, 16:39:34
Hej Carsten,

no, it is not like the english lions.

There is a crown above the 3 lions - more like the danish mark.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards
Henry

Geschrieben von: limone am: 29.10.10, 16:48:49
Like this?

http://www.deutsches-blankwaffenforum.de/attachment.php?id=5427&


Best

Carsten

Geschrieben von: Henry Chr. am: 29.10.10, 18:04:27
Hej again Carsten,

yes, it is like your picture.

Kind regards
Henry

Geschrieben von: limone am: 29.10.10, 18:19:27
Hej Henry,

than have a look here:

>Dänemark - Offizierdegen M 1837< (unofficial pattern)

The regulation M 1837 small sword has a single-edged, towards point double-edged blade with broad groove and the inscription "Frederiksværk".


Best regards

Carsten

Geschrieben von: Henry Chr. am: 29.10.10, 19:45:05
Hej Carsten,

yes, I know M1837, but I think it differs too much from the Degen, I show - please look at the picture (it is M1837 to the right).


Maybe someone has been very creative........

Kind Regards
Henry

Geschrieben von: limone am: 29.10.10, 20:28:31
The blade looks older than the rest, but doesn't fit to M 1765/6 (officerer af fodfolket) and 1777 (underofficerer af artilleriet) too, I don't know it. traurig

Best

Carsten