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Thema: Faustriemens for identification (https://forum-historische-waffen.de/topic.php?id=8876)

Hallo
Can anybody help me identify these two faustriemens. From what I know is that:
No.1 - it is so called Eigentumsstück but I don know who was its carrier - NCO or Kapitulanten or Mannschaften and for cavallry or artillery ?
No.2 - looks like Austro-Hungarian but the strap is fixed and can not be unbuttoned like in case of typical A-H faustriemens